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Artwork => Scenery Building => Topic started by: Brandlin on May 19, 2011, 11:46:20 am



Title: Test Shapes
Post by: Brandlin on May 19, 2011, 11:46:20 am
What is it and what's it going to be?

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-BfdVMsjKg7M/TdT0jjfJebI/AAAAAAAADW0/djNQIkO4_yU/Cup.jpg)


Title: Re: What?
Post by: Carcharoth on May 19, 2011, 11:54:46 am
Hmm... hard to tell without scale. Looks a tad too small to be a coffee cup, although is a similar shape to the ones on the old Kenco coffee machine we used to have at work.

Is it going to be a little house for a homestead?


Title: Re: What?
Post by: Brandlin on May 19, 2011, 12:04:13 pm
i was thinking of calling it the Fluur-ree house?

And I'm working on a few different styles that i might bundle into a single kit.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-1MGHQeMf39M/TdUPjHqFQcI/AAAAAAAADXI/reUKE2Ic-s4/s640/alloptions.jpg)

Three different roofs and three different doors gives a lot of variety. Plus if I recess the rooves to take pillars like in the watchtower then you can do this too!
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-IGnYE60E1iU/TdURmQ5D3tI/AAAAAAAADXM/PvlRkgQjSBk/option10.jpg)

what do you think?


Title: Re: What?
Post by: Megatron0 on May 19, 2011, 01:11:46 pm
Looks like a shrine or a chapel! really cool!


Title: Re: What?
Post by: Lost Egg on May 19, 2011, 04:46:16 pm
Looks like a cool simple idea to me with great variety.

HN


Title: Re: What?
Post by: TheGremlin on May 19, 2011, 05:43:56 pm
Nice different style as well. I could see those designs fitted to halft oobs as well, though, so that they are fully compatable with the rest of the range.


Title: Re: What?
Post by: Brandlin on May 19, 2011, 06:55:32 pm
Nice different style as well. I could see those designs fitted to halft oobs as well, though, so that they are fully compatable with the rest of the range.

no, they wont fit pringles tubes because they are cylindrical and theses designs are conical. Also the roof diameters are different.


Title: Re: What?
Post by: TheGremlin on May 19, 2011, 07:41:45 pm
I know, I was suggesting that you designed them for the pringles tube rather than the flurry cups, for enhanced modularity.


Title: Re: What?
Post by: Brandlin on May 19, 2011, 08:00:55 pm
I'm trying to get away from just pringles tubes though because otherwise all the buildings have the same base shape and it will look repetitive.

What do you guys think of the heightened roof variant?


Title: Re: What?
Post by: Megatron0 on May 19, 2011, 08:06:20 pm
I'm trying to get away from just pringles tubes though because otherwise all the buildings have the same base shape and it will look repetitive.

What do you guys think of the heightened roof variant?

I really like it! looks interesting and unique!


Title: Re: What?
Post by: Brandlin on May 19, 2011, 08:19:06 pm
It doesn't look too ... Gnomey? Or like a cartoon toadstools?

I'll probably add a dormer window too it, or I may make it a roof with a double pitch angle.

I was going to do a hexagonal roof too...

Lots of options still...


Title: Re: What?
Post by: Megatron0 on May 19, 2011, 08:41:06 pm
No i dont think so, Its just the blue and white colour that is smurfing it up at the moment. Those houses would make a great village. though i think the houses in the centre have a better roof. BUT the pointed one does have a place. Like i said I would make mine a religious building.


Title: Re: What?
Post by: Lost Egg on May 19, 2011, 09:57:36 pm
It does look a bit odd, perhaps the walls should be lower so that the overall height of both varients is the same...if that makes any sense.

HN


Title: Re: What?
Post by: Carcharoth on May 19, 2011, 10:14:40 pm
It does look a wee bit gnomey and not quite twilight just yet...

The porch could maybe be angled to be parallel to the pot? Could it have a more cone-like roof?

It could really do with something to break up the main shape a little bit more.

It's got potential though!


Title: Re: What?
Post by: Brandlin on May 19, 2011, 10:38:32 pm
With the high roof I was aiming for something a bit like the top right building in this group
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Xib0c6Yt4z4/TX74MdOoyRI/AAAAAAAAAlA/h1wtMBUEjwg/s1600/oasis_hut_thumbs.jpg)

I was using the porches to give me a vertical surface to mount the door. I was intending to do three different door details too.  I guess the doors don't have to be vertical but I don't think they'd look right just painted on the conical surface?

What do you mean by "more cone like roof?"

As to breaking up the outline don't forget I'll do windows and half timbering... Perhaps a cellar door, lean to shed, window shutters etc.


Title: Re: What?
Post by: Lost Egg on May 20, 2011, 08:52:02 am
The peak of the roof for the top right building look off centre slightly, maybe try that (I think you did something like that before in another pic).

HN


Title: Re: What?
Post by: Carcharoth on May 20, 2011, 09:40:15 am
A shorter base section would help a lot - you might have to cut down the pot and lose some integrity, but a more squat base to the building would work better (in my opinion).
I like the rougher style of the buildings in those images, although that might be more tricky to capture with the laser cut parts. A roughly shaped doorway with nice big stones would be cool though (as in the top-right building).
HN's suggestion of a slight offset to the roof could be fun. It would only need to be very subtle.

I like the idea of an entire village of those tall-rooved buildings. It would be less of a central-empire style of architecture (although I imagine architects within the central empire would draw inspiration from it).


Title: Test Shapes
Post by: Brandlin on May 23, 2011, 02:50:26 pm
I've changed this thread to be a home for all the test shapes I might play around with and made it a sticky.

And todays installment is based on a Dairy Lea cheese triangles box extended in height with an offset conical roof and balcony.

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-nnm5cpLX0A8/TdpkoSt5-uI/AAAAAAAADX0/rofbBjgV10A/s640/dairyleaISO.jpg)

As always this is a very simple block model and would be augmented with beam details, doors, windows and "stuff" in the final model.

comments always welcome.


Title: Re: Test Shapes
Post by: Emberbreeze on May 23, 2011, 03:13:23 pm
I like it, very funky.


Title: Re: Test Shapes
Post by: Carcharoth on May 23, 2011, 03:16:19 pm
I like that a lot.
Add in the option of an intersecting pryn-gul (scoring on the roof would suffice) and I'd be very happy.
I think it would look good with a nice long set of tiles at the bottom layer to give more of an overhang.


Title: Re: Test Shapes
Post by: Lost Egg on May 23, 2011, 03:32:55 pm
Looks good. I could see an Engineer setting up a telescope on that balcony.

HN


Title: Re: Test Shapes
Post by: TheGremlin on May 23, 2011, 03:38:00 pm
This, I like! It reminds me of an observatory: all it needs is a telescope and it would make a perfect engineer's home. I'd stick it on top of a half tube as well. I'm not familiar with the the dimensions of the box, could you post a scale picture along side pringle tube dimsenions?



Title: Re: Test Shapes
Post by: Brandlin on May 23, 2011, 03:45:25 pm
thank you guys - a lot of fiddling to do yet to get all the sizes right - for example that door is only 19mm wide,  and the overhang of the roof isn't correct yet etc etc.

But i like where its going - at it seems do you lot.

I love the way mike says "scoring on the roof would suffice" like its a fibe minute job! I'd have to calculate not only the scoring for the roof, but for every row of shingles too plus create templates for the main body of the building and then figure out how to keep the cone cone shaped when more than half of it has been cut away! Simple! (actually the last bit is the tricky one...)

Its not going to be a cheap kit as the roofs take a lot of styrene and cutting time, and the sides of the main structure would also be styrene rolled inside the Dairy Lea lids.

Now my only problem is - are Dairy Lea boxes the same size the world over - cos I just found out that McFlurry cups aren't! Curse you McDonalds and your Whimsically random approach to product packaging sizes!

for those of you unfamiliar with the product
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-esnhlrfFU4c/Tdp2U6nEeCI/AAAAAAAADYE/cqnC9exBGwI/s1600/dairyleabox.jpg)
very similar to
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-sLOqJ15Lyxw/Tdp2T1wjeMI/AAAAAAAADYA/SMyolRKAcME/s1600/laughingcow1.jpg)

Oh, final news for today - i'm now selling the standard 75mm conical roof for the pringles tower separately (http://brandlin.blogspot.com/p/store.html#ecwid:category=329271&mode=product&product=4421602)...


Title: Re: Test Shapes
Post by: Lost Egg on May 23, 2011, 04:16:44 pm
No idea on the sizes there Brandlin but is the cardboard tube of a roll of parcel tape (dia= 80mm) the same?

HN


Title: Re: Test Shapes
Post by: Brandlin on May 23, 2011, 04:59:47 pm
bugger i've been and gone and deleted the cad model - well thats an hour i wont get back!


Title: Re: Test Shapes
Post by: Megatron0 on May 23, 2011, 06:15:17 pm
I love that building!
Make that a kit and you got yourself a sale :D


Title: Re: Test Shapes
Post by: gogilvie on May 23, 2011, 07:08:23 pm
Love the shape and I will definately get some of them if they go into production!


Title: Re: Test Shapes
Post by: Lost Egg on May 23, 2011, 07:17:52 pm
I think it'd look great half built into a hill or possibly the watchtower.

HN


Title: Re: Test Shapes
Post by: TheGremlin on May 24, 2011, 11:03:21 am
Are you planning to incorporate that shape as the top floor of a tower?

Pringles tubes are 73mm diametre, right? I would assume that the dairylea lid was wider, but by how much?


Title: Re: Test Shapes
Post by: Brandlin on November 06, 2011, 03:06:15 pm
A shorter base section would help a lot - you might have to cut down the pot and lose some integrity, but a more squat base to the building would work.

I'm returning to look at these, as next models.

Yes I could make the base 'squatter' simply by lowering the roof over it rather than cutting the base cup.

I now have a young niece that works in mcdonalds as a Saturday job, so I'm hoping I don't have to buy stuff from them anymore to get packaging!


Title: Re: What?
Post by: ork56 on November 07, 2011, 10:28:19 pm
Looks like a shrine or a chapel! really cool!

or possibly a public meeting point, like somewhere a town crier would stand to do some proclaiming


Title: Re: Test Shapes
Post by: Carcharoth on November 07, 2011, 11:18:47 pm
It would be great to see some more Brandlin creations - you've been too quiet for the last few months! Jules has almost finished her little watchtower  :)


Title: Re: Test Shapes
Post by: Brandlin on November 08, 2011, 12:55:36 pm
It would be great to see some more Brandlin creations - you've been too quiet for the last few months! Jules has almost finished her little watchtower  :)

yeah life has been soooo busy last 4-5 months.

im trying to get refocused at the moment which is hard

i may have to do some simple kits before i do a bigger one just to get back in the swing of it.

you going to salute again in 2012? should i plan something new?


Title: Re: Test Shapes
Post by: Brandlin on November 10, 2011, 02:02:29 pm
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/--mHRXKMc60I/TrvK8MzVNrI/AAAAAAAADZw/Ha-ThvkzJcU/s599/flurry1.jpg)

just playing around with the beam work and shingles... this iwll ultimately be intechangable with the other components in the group and it'll have the usual windows and such like to adorn the kit.

remember its based on a mcflurry kit.


Title: Re: Test Shapes
Post by: Carcharoth on November 10, 2011, 03:05:03 pm
Could you make the cone roof extend further? Maybe add some internal support under the eaves. That would make quite a cool outline.


Title: Re: Test Shapes
Post by: Brandlin on November 10, 2011, 03:14:10 pm
Could you make the cone roof extend further? Maybe add some internal support under the eaves. That would make quite a cool outline.

at the moment thats exactly the same roof as appears on the other models

is this what you mean?
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-4mcTuAH0RMY/Trver3A2R_I/AAAAAAAADaA/jCDOYdujIZk/s599/flurry2.jpg)


Title: Re: Test Shapes
Post by: Carcharoth on November 10, 2011, 03:45:39 pm
Nope. I was imagining more of an overhang, but with a few simple eaves under the overhang - they wouldn't be visible from the angle you are showing it now, but would look cool when seen from a lower angle. I think the overnhang should hide the join with the porch roof.


Title: Re: Test Shapes
Post by: Brandlin on November 10, 2011, 03:54:47 pm
more like that?
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-oE_jCIAWIKQ/TrvlfccUf7I/AAAAAAAADaQ/6i_s2o8c5Ac/s850/flurry3.jpg)


Title: Re: Test Shapes
Post by: Lost Egg on November 10, 2011, 04:39:03 pm
Without more obvious eaves it looks a little top heavy.

HN


Title: Re: Test Shapes
Post by: Carcharoth on November 10, 2011, 04:40:31 pm
Yeah, that's the sort of thing I was thinking. That would then make for more options on other kits as well. You could always make the final row of tiles bigger and possibly more ornate and have them stuck individually (or in sets) under the final layer of normal shingles. If you then had nice looking supports that would basically make for a more ornate style of roof.

Could you do a small little dormer(?) window sitting under the eaves - a little round window on a slightly downward facing curved section?


Title: Re: Test Shapes
Post by: TuffSkull on November 12, 2011, 12:42:56 pm
If you're going for overhanging roofs, would it not also allow for a multiple-roof kit?
With a couple of sizes of self-contained roofs with eves and soffets included, which people could then add to the top of any sized container to make their own buildings. This (making roofs & tiles) for me is the most annoying part, and would instantly open the door to much more variety in buildings without you having to design specific kits for all the specific containers available.

Just a thought  ;D


Title: Re: Test Shapes
Post by: Brandlin on November 12, 2011, 05:07:19 pm
i already sell this
http://brandlin.blogspot.com/p/store.html#ecwid:category=329271&mode=product&product=4421602

not sold one yet though!


Title: Re: Test Shapes
Post by: TuffSkull on November 13, 2011, 01:27:28 pm
ah.. well.. umm.. I feel rather foolish now...  :-[

I'd completely missed that previously. There's a whole thread about it I see now too....  :-[ ::)

Good job tho - I have a Pryn-Gul tower awaiting assembly from far too long ago, and then I'll be on to more of my own, so I know where to look now, thanks!


Title: Re: Test Shapes
Post by: Megatron0 on November 13, 2011, 03:59:46 pm
How was the tower (pryn-gul) textured? I might buy one but I want it to look right.


Title: Re: Test Shapes
Post by: Brandlin on November 13, 2011, 05:49:56 pm
No problem tuff skull

Megaton - http://www.worldoftwilight.com/AlanPainting.pdf

Always read the instructions ;)