The World Of Twilight

As the title says lets have some suggestions of what character models you would like to see in the range.
I myself am pretty keen to sculpt a "special" character once the mounted herders are done and one idea that came to mind was an assassin type, Delgon maybe. Not as much cloak and dagger. More like cloak and spanner in the works. Plenty of stealth ending in lots of disruption via smoke grenades, oil slicks or whatever. Of course a poisoned dagger wouldnt go amiss too.

So come on lets have some suggestions.   ;D

- How about a Devanu Kopa character, but he is half Devanu and half machine.  Maybe has one regular leg and one steam power leg like a strider.  Maybe even a steam powered arm too (on the same side of body, kinda like he injured badly on one side and forced his Fubarnii slaves to build him limbs). 

- How about a Devanu Sempa Slaver.  He would have  a flail whip in one hand and comes with four fubarnii slaves (kinda like a unit).  These Fubarnii have been enslaved for such a long time and have their spirit so broken but they can do nothing but follow the slavers orders, no matter what their master's command is.  The fubarnii would have no shirts and scars on the backs from repeated beatings  and have chains hanging from their wrists.  The fubarnii slaves might have crude weapons like a club.

- Fubarnii twin warriors (would be a unique unit of two models) basically would be something between a Militia captain and Commander Brenar with unique abilities that play off each other.  Should have really cool background/history too  Think something like the games workshop Lotr elven twin brothers: Elladan & Elrohir ( http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat460018a&prodId=prod1130290) .  They can be played separately or played together.  Can have abilities like when X brother is in play, this model gets X ability.

- A Fubarnii clan leader, don't have to scuplt 37 different ones  ;D but can have a generic Fubarnii clan leader.  Maybe even make a few unique ones (can be the next contest too, create a clan leader?)

- A Fubarnii Elder, can have a cane and look very aged.  Would be something interesting too see since most Fubarnii so far look to be in their prime.

I don't really have any Delgon ideas.

What about the Emperor Himself?

He comes with an entourage, some kick ass, some liabilities. He has a personal bodyguard, headed by an able but elderly general. Some advisors, sycophants, hangers-on with pets, fat, neutered servants? They play as a unit and the task is to manage their strengths and weaknesses. Priority 1 is protect the Emperor, 2 his Elderly general, 3 one of his advisors.

The liability factors might be fun, maybe if one of the pet minders is killed, the Emperor's pet runs off randomly and the Emperor will personally go after it? If one of the two advisors is killed/captured, the other one (if in command radius) attempts to command the bodyguard and randomly conflicts with the general's (player's) control of the unit. So the unit circles around the cowardly advisor? That kind of stuff.

That's a fun idea with the Emperor. You could also do something similar with a clan leader, or a rich trader. I would love to do a big fat trader riding on some poor rare beast that he's had imported from one of the distant islands. I expect he'd have a pampered pree pree with him. A natural accompaniment to him would be some rather fancily dressed infantry with ornate pikes and excessive plumes. The sycophantic entourage would also be a nice touch.
As an aside, I do quite like the idea of a clan leader design competition.

I'd like to see a really old engineer, wrapped in lots of blankets and carrying lots of stuff on his wizened and bent back.

A delgon priest engineer - a big solid looking Delgon carrying lots of tools and pouches and wearing metal shoes on his hooves. In game terms he would be handy for giving the Striders a re-fuel or tuning up some of the deraks.

A delgon assassin may well be a 'tamed' dhogu. An even smaller Fubarnii dressed in lighter furs than his dhogu brethren, but wearing a cloak and well equipped with the sort of devices Mark was suggesting. Sounds like just the sort of asset the priests would appreciate for doing their dirty work.

Ooh cool ideas.
Clan leader competition sounds fun too. Maybe each entry has to include a banner/totem etc for the clan colours and emblem to be placed on. Could add to scenerios too.

character models? hmmm... not usually my cup of tea... i'd prefer to see more rank and file in differing poses to create larger groups/units with interest.

i guess more traders in differing styles so you can have a larger caravan would be nice too, as would more baruk/enuk

for proper characters, can i be sneaky and ask for ME?

Brandlin... furbarnii engineer/ chief architect... with goggles naturally but unarmed... plenty of opprtunities to do different hands with different tools etc, sextent, theodolite, telescopem wrench, welding torch (cue discussion on tech), spirit level, measuring tape on a wheel etc... hard yellow hat, hi vis jacket optional...

while i like the engineer figures, the fact that he is carrying a derak does kinda make hima mobile cannon rather than reflecting the true role of the engineers in fubarnii society...

Hi im new here this is mine first post replay  ::).I think some special character Soeme legendary hm..Hunter for Devanu.One to be feared in all twilight world..Nastier and stronger then normal Kopa....covered witch scars after many fights and failed attempts to hunt him down buy fubarnii and other now wishing him well.Live terror;)....Cheers.

cheers

Hi MrBigLizardusek! That Kopa is a good idea and actually sounds a bit like Arak Katain. I'm sure there must be pics of him somewhere around here... Ben is painting him at the moment and he's going to be released in a couple of weeks  :)

As arrogant as Brandlin's idea sounds, I actually like it.  ;D I agree that the current engineer is rather atypical and an unarmed one would be a great addition. Your idea sounds a bit like my thoughts for the Delgon engineer, but there would be a very different feel to engineers from the two nations.

Thats good in this ,,weeks,, i wiil focus on gathering forces for Fubarnii and and Delgon so when Devanu Arak Katain will be avalible i will get him witch some proper back up;P................One thing to do will be to paint them all eheh.

I think the delgon Engineer character would probably be the best choice if you want to make an engineer character.  It can interact with the striders (ie. refuel them, etc..)  A regular fubarnii engineer would be interesting, but what would he be used for?  The fubarnii don't have any contraptions, yet?  Maybe a fubarnii engineer would be required to set up traps for devanu I guess.  Maybe fielding a fubarnii engineer lets you place 3 hidden traps on the board or something?

I would really like to see a character Grishak.  Like an Alpha Grishnak.  One that is maybe larger than the others.  Wonder what one would look like. 

There's my rules if you wanted to use those.

Don't you dare make and engineer character to work on the striders and name it Brandlin!!


For looking after - they are the respected elders of the race.

There was a part of me who was sorely tempted, but I get the feeling you might never forgive me  :)


Exactly, they would be character pieces to begin with for specific scenarios - much like the kiddies or the traders. It's nice to have a small portion of the range that fleshes out the world, even if they don't have an immediate gaming purpose.
But saying that, it is also fun to tie those characters in with the game, and Jubal's engineer examples would be a prime method, or something simple like traps.

An alpha grishak would be cool, but I've got some other ideas for beasts I'd like to explore first!

I just have nad an idea...Or rather fought about model of Funbarnii sinle one mounted or not that will be known as a some soort of hunter traveling from villige to villige and killing their ,,Problems,, Some Renegade;) he can have 2 helpers or something likle that.

Cheers


And about this enginnets  for Striders its a good idea

Kind of like a hired mercenary. Sounds good to me.

It might be intrestnig model i think.And a lot of fun for talented sculptor:) ;D

OOh idea moment....

Mercenary Fubarnii named Drussii. Stands a head above most other Fubarnii and is covered with solid muscle. Black leather and steel armour adorns this giant and a huge double bladed axe hangs from his back. He can often be seen travelling with his long time friend and bard, Siebensii, who helps to calm his terribly short temper.

 ;D ;D ;D

Thats a good idea ;)...Iv hope that if or when this character will come to live..He will be in some dynamic/action pose  ;D ,....

Sounds interesting, but doesn't sound like a Fubarnii to me.  This sounds more like a Delgon Belog, something like Roban.  Could be a 2 model character unit.  You must always play Drussi with Siebensii or something like that.  I always thought of Fubarnii as a clumsy race.  I don't think that this fits the image of Fubarnii. 

Now I wouldn't mind seeing a Fubarnii scout or runner/messenger.

Mike said he wanted to flesh out the model with models that may not necessarly need play stats.  I would love to see Fubarnii civilians.  Maybe a farmer with a hoe or pickfork, Fubarnii mother holding her young, or maybe even a fubarnii carrying to pales of water on a stick over his shoulders.  Could make scenarios like evacute to town and escort the civilians to safetly.

I'm not sure Mark was being entirely serious (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drenai_Series).  ;D
Big strong fubarnii warriors do exist, but it's all a matter of scale - a huge strong Fubarnii warrior would still struggle to take on a young Devanu on his own.

A Fubarnii scout/messenger would be a nice idea, and you are right that I'd like to do more civilians.

Well i have to agree that single Fubarnii is not enough for one Devanu or atleast woa before mine imagination started to create SuperFUbarnii;)

 :'(

If you would like to sculpt Druss in Fubarnii form then I'll take that back and welcome him into the range  ;D

Nah Ive changed my mind now. Im now planning on a Fubarnii version of the cast from High School Musical.

Hee!  A troupe of wandering players isn't a bad idea though.

NO I think he means brain dead zombies,

I've actually made a quick headswap and weaponswap conversion for one of those ages ago, a day or two after salute. He even got primed yesterday, along with half of everything I got at Salute! One day he might even get painted, if he's lucky.

Nope, can't sculpt any high school kids here or zombies.   ;D


Another model you could sculpt is a Devanu Egg nest on maybe a 40 mm base.  Could be used as objective marker.

I would really like to see a few fubarnii villagers, maybe with improvised weapons/tools, a village leader type and definately some feral fubarnii!  ;D

I agree that lightly armoured militia would be a nice addition. Possibly something I could ask Mark to convert from the herders.
How would you envisage a village leader? I've got a bunch of different ideas of how they might look, but any other suggestions would be good!
Feral fubarnii will turn up eventually  :)

Lightly armoured militia sounds good to me and converted herders would fit the bill nicely. If done with only the weapon arm seperate then we could get a good range of options in there too. Hence a model for a farmer with a shovel could be militia with a spear with only the different arm option. Plenty scope for civvies too.
A village leader I see as being not too different from the regulars but with some kind of symbol of position, kind of like a mayors. Maybe a fancy shawl with gems adorning it ? The more "feral" the setting the more primitive it would be. Big headwear etc and animal teeth.

I see a fubarnii wearing leathers with a lot of detail or embroiderd with runes or fubarnii markings.  He could be holding a large staff with a talisman hanging from it's tip or around his neck (The staff would have to look important, or that it shows status/leadership).   Unusual headdress made from local beasts might really make his stand out.

(http://www.jeffpidgeon.com/uploaded_images/poobah-709241.jpg)

If you really want him to look like a fierce fubarnii leader, he could be wearing a helmet made from a Devanu's skull with an unusual weapon hanging from his side (perhaps a weapon of tradition that is passed down from each village leader - perhaps a weapon made from Devanu claws)

I found this pics strolling the google images, this is something I would imagine:
(http://www.rpgsite.net/images/screens/3/graaf.jpg)

Not sure about the head-dress idea so much, but I like the idea of a "staff of office" - some ornately carved staff, slightly longer than a traders staff (on purpose!). Probably an over-robe as well, sort of like an open-fronted robe with no sleeves (or maybe sleeves?), or is it starting to sound a bit too yoda-ish!!  :o

The village leaders will be a hugely varied across the continent, and in turn they would defer to the clan leaders. I like the ideas suggested so far. Within the central empire I imagine the leaders to err towards the aged senator archetype (well fed, fine clothes, ornate jewelry). Down towards Casan I would certainly expect Devanu-skull adornments and the likes. The computer game guy could work perfectly, although he would be an awful lot shorter  :D
If you want to sketch out those ideas then they might be more likely to inspire me to sculpt them at some point (no promises though).

I think some kind of robes or head dress of office might be good.

Courtier (possibly with pree-pree).  Expensive clothes and adornments, functionally useless but a good scenario mcguffin.  Maybe he/she has been kidnapped for ransome.

Like it, if it is a he, we'd probably need one or two Sempa toadies, err flunkies as well! As a matter of interest, is there much difference between Kopa and Sempa clothing (apart from perhaps being more ostentatious due to a higher rank)?

A lot.  Because Kopa and Sempa aren't physiologically very different, it becomes important to emphasise the differences with strong cultural variation, such as different clothing.  Cross-dressing is highly taboo. 
I just haven't worked out what the differences are yet.

am I the only one thinking that twilight is going to attract entirely the wrong type of cosplayer?

What? The green ones with hooves?  ;)

Great Blessed's Beard people.......I'm just starting to figure out these wierd reptilian critters and now you throw transvestitism into the mix.    ;D ;D ;D

now that is a good idea. on enukback, scroll of parchment in hand, sort of a paul revere kind of character? for delgon or fubarnii, but i've got this picture in my head of a lone rider rousing the townspeople of the coming delgon/devanu masses.

"Listen, my jenta, and you shall hear
Of the midnight ride of Paulapiratoopareer..."

Special character? how about the Great Lanak!
Concept art already provided  ;)

(http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/8308/lanak1.jpg)
(http://img813.imageshack.us/img813/5973/lanak2.jpg)