The World Of Twilight

Mainly as a means of extra motivation, Im taking Mike's lead and will be adding ongoing Twilight projects here. Please forgive me if my postings are quite sporadic.

On the "corks" at present are 2 mounted herders. These will have arm options, one spear and the other not quite decided yet. They are based on the 2 herders already available.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/Klute/wip%20sculpts/mountherdwip.jpg)

That is cool ;D...Good work keep them koming Please.

Progressed a little more on these 2 guys. The clothed one has had the cuffs of his pants done and his collar finished. Other one has had the bulk thinned out leaving the body shape and a belt. Contemplating what extra shoulder bits to add. Fancy a furr on one and maybe a cowboy style scarf on the other. Want to toy with ideas for the front of the saddle too. Want it larger but dont want it to end up looking a bit rude. I want a blanket roll too but struggling to find roon at the back.

It's okay, they don't have those rude bits  :D

Well that is true but you try to stop people laughing at a large phallus shape saddle horn. (no pun intended)

Good to hear about the progress! The details sound like fun (except for the phallic saddle horn...).
I had the same problem with a blanket roll on the Heavy knight captain and ended up just scrapping the idea as I simply couldn't get it to fit.

Am I allowed to ask what measurements the armatures you use are?

Thats a good question actually. The original herders I did were scaled from a drawing Mike sent me along with some other Fubarnii for reference. They did end up a little large though.
These were kept smaller and match up better with the ones Mike has done though tbh there wasnt that much difference, just enough to make me want to keep an eye on it. Adjustments are made while sculpting as well. I drew crude bones and joints on the Fubarnii front and side views and scaled from that but it wasnt quite right. I suppose base armature dimensions would be handy for us. Mike might have that already.

If your going to scratch sculpt your own then I suggest using an original model and measuring the lengths yourself and using the original as a reference while sculpting.

Quick mock up of horn and blankets.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/Klute/wip%20sculpts/herdmountmock.jpg)

Looks good to me! :)
Are you going to leave a few suitable points to attach the bolas/lasso/holstered knife or are you going to sculpt them onto the model?

Definitely. Im leaning towards the sheaved knife being a permenant addition and a couple of spaces for the others. Knife will be on a belt loop, may mirror that to the other side for the bolas/lasso. I dont want the model to be too busy while at the same time keeping a nomadic feel to the kit, hence the blanket roll and "awning" roll.

Another option would be do ditch the roll at the front opening up space for stuff. A basic backpack could be added that has the roll on it too. This could also be usefull for other models. Dont think it fits the light cavalry thinking behind these guys.

Got a bit more done on these guys today. Mainly the top half of the front of the saddle like the mock up last pic. Also did the blanket roll on the one with the bags. The other has had baggage added more like sacks than the first ones. Want to get the hooves done next then some clothing detail. Oh and maybe some arms lol.
Pics to follow asap.

Good to hear that! I've been sprue-ing up herder weapons this morning, which might be helpful when it comes to finishing off these guys  :)

Now hurry up with those pics  ;)

Should be able to make the spear arms ready for you to tack on the spears if they arnt done in time. Sure there will be though.

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(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/Klute/wip%20sculpts/herdenuk.jpg)

was it only me that saw those figures and for a moment thought "those figures have very strange penises with faces on them?" :(


edit: sorry

Whatever your on.....please pass it around   :D

Bit of a risk here... but I'm guessing without looking that the last post on page 1 was from Brandlin?

Someone's been brewing fungi from the Naralon forests again...  ;)

Good guess! I'm going to try to ignore his comment for fear of being unable to ever look at enuk cavalry in the same way again...

I'm not sure if that's a good reputation to have or not?

Good work on the cavalry though! looking forwards to having lots

These are starting to look good.  Question though, are the Fubarnii a separate model or is it going to cast as one piece?  It's looking more and more like it's one piece. 

My only gripe is the heads aren't quite right.  Kinda of hard to tell from the greens though.  Have you ever thought of having exchangeable heads.  You could sculpt four different fubarnii heads for the two enuk bodies and have up to four different looking models.  And with exchangeable arms with different weapons too?

I think Mark is following my lead and doing a single part for the main body, then separate enuk heads and weapon arms. He's done a bunch of cool weapon options. Sculpting the Fubarnii separate from the enuk mounts is surprisingly difficult - the back is a much more complicated shape than a horses!
I think that exchangeable Fubarnii heads could end up being a tad fiddly, although it would open up some good conversion options. I am currently considering doing some alternate weapon options for some of the existing figures, and might suggest the same for the old herders.

Yeah the riders are fixed. The enuk heads are seperate and will match with the other enuk to create several options. The left arms will be seperate with 2 weapon options.

I understand about the heads. Its impossible to get features like that an exact match to existing sculpts. We all have our own methods of doing things that means there will always be a difference. Hopefully its only slight and my take on it is that as humans we are all different shapes and sizes so why not Fubarnii ? As long as they are recognizable as Fubarnii then Im happy with them not being an exact match to Mike's. I have Mikes sculpts to hand when Im doing mine for comparison and theres honestly not much difference. If anything mine tend to end up a teeny tiny bit stockier but put that down to good living  ;D

And not only to sculpt. They'd be right tricky buggers to get right putting the models together and painting them up pretty

Great work, Klute :) I like them a lot.

Looking forward seeing you choice of weapons.

About exchangeable heads. It looks like the neck meets the chest on a nice flat area - so some head variants shouldn't actually be that difficult. And I must say, I like the idea of have a chance of personalize your troopers. But as said - it opens of for conversions - and hopefully there will be a head sprue for the Fubarnii's in the future.

Thanks.
For character models I would say no to sculpted interchangable heads but a future head sprue for conversions doesnt seem out of the question.

The more interchangable bits you have the more expensive it is to produce and the more complicated it is to put together. I'm not just talking about sticking something together with glue, but casting it in such a way as there is minimal fuss getting the bits to fit in the right way

For a large battle game some variation is quite nice, but I'd rather it was in one or two more basic variants rather than the same one with added extra fiddlyness

I found the last 2 herders I did were very fiddly to put together. Less bits the better for me.

A sprue of heads to help people with conversions might be an option at some point. When I was sculpting the Delgon soldiers I initially sculpted a Delgon soldier kit with the spear and the Soldier and Derak heads. I never released that, but it might be something to consider.

It's always tricky knowing how many variants to sculpt of each troop type. Given that we'll only get a certain number of sculpts done in a year, is it better to go back and sculpt more militia with spears, or should I (and Mark) be sculpting brand new units? I have been thinking about doing a couple more militia style models with slightly different weapons, but possibly with a different sort of polearm that could be swapped with the existing models.

Personally I would vote for fewer unit types with greater variety of models - poses and some equipment differences.

One of the things I dislike about games that have been around for a while is that almost every figure release seems to be for a new "special" unit. Often those new units have special powers or new rules and so the whole power gaming cycle continues whilst the basic troops (that would be the bread and butter of any army) are hardly used.

I don't think twilight is at that stage at all. You have a nice range taking shape, with a good mix of basic troops and some eye catching specials such as knights, deraks and striders (mutter mutter!).

TBH I would leave the heads well alone , at the most do a head sprue for conversions.

Maybe a good practice from now on would be to sculpt the weapon arms seperate. At least that means different units based on weaponry is easy enough. Im already doing this with the mounted ones and plan on doing spear arms for the herders already done.



EDIT after Brandlin.
Im not sure on the mechanics of the game itself but it looks like a skirmish based game is more suited to a range of character models as opposed to lots of rank and file. So I think I agree with what your saying. However it would be good sense to have a few basic rank and file types for each force for people to bulk out large forces if they so wish.
I think what I said above about models with just weapon arms seperate would work for that. Start with one figure with interchangeable weapon arm. As long as the fit is matched well then any variant of weapon could be done (within reason).

I agree about the skirmish nature of the game... but even so fielding 2-3 striders or derakeers, or 10+ militia doesn't seem uncommon from the reports I have seen.

I admit to preferring larger scale battles - maybe my "rank em up" prejudice is showing through?

Even for small games Twilight uses reasonable numbers of standard fubarnii troops - I would expect to have at least 10 basic fubarnii for either Delgon or Empire forces, probably more. For the two Fubarnii cultures I see there being interesting characters supported by the basic troops.
 
Having only two basic poses for each of those troop types is a bit limiting at the moment, but the duplication is less obvious in skirmish formations than would be the case if you ranked up the figures. It's definitely on my list of things to sort out!

Bah sculpting slowed down again a bit. Got 3 new spears done though for the mounted herders. Done the hooves on those guys too and started the fixed arms.

EDIT for pic

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They are looking very good!  The enuk are very expressive.

Oooh, this is the first time I've seen these pics!

Those are looking great - the weapons in particular are very crisp.
The rider on the left is sporting the latest fashion in high-waisted belts, while the one on the left has clearly been eating a few too many mushroom pies. :)

 >:(  >:(  >:(

You designed the damn things.  :P

You do realize that you are now going to get a hugely obese Fubarnii corrupt trader along with a very scantily clad "slave sempa".  ;)

I never said those were bad features! I like 'em  :)

A hugely obese trader (with pet Pre Pre) will eventually appear in the range, but the scantily clad slave is a new idea... That might be a tad too disturbing though :-\

Holy mackrel its been a while since an update from me  :o

Mounted herders are nearly done just working on the weapon arm options and some minor details. Had to shorten the upper arms a bit too. No pics yet sorry.

The pelvic area I assume wouldn't be considered revealing/important to Fubarnii, since the sexual organs are in the main body am I right?

You most certainly are correct. Chest area if I recall but not sure on the "physical" form of said organs. Hopefully it will be something hidden away until needed like a snakes ;-)

Been a long time since last update. Mounted herders/light cavalry are in Mike's posession. Here's a quick pic of them...

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Two figures with optional arms. Enuk heads are interchangable with the other enuks too. Should get a decent bit of variety from them.

On the corks at the moment are a hunter/beastmaster type figure. Im subconciously edging toward a shepard look it seams but that could change. Also reposing the 2 beasts Ive already done. The hunter and a couple of skitterers would make a nice pack I reckon.

Awesome: A characterful addition to the range!

Thanks Gremlin  ;D

UPDATE

Skitterer is reposed and "finished". Scavenger is reposed but still needs bulking and skinning.
Beast master is well under way. Weapon is done and will need some feedback. Gone for a kind of staff with a large hooked end, something practical for handling animals while still quite nasty knocked on the head.
Pics soon promise.

ooo sounds quirky and interesting - you know that it doesn't exist without pictures though!

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/Klute/wip%20sculpts/skit2.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/Klute/wip%20sculpts/scav2.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/Klute/wip%20sculpts/huntwip.jpg)

There we go.

I am liking what you are doing with all these.  :)
I'm looking forward to having a contingent of herders - a few light cavalry, some sling staves and a hunter with his beasts! Hopefully they'll all be ready in time for Salute (end of April).

HINT HINT     ;D

I will be heading for a few layers of clothing on the hunter. He has pants, vest and waistcoat already. Likely extend the waistcoat to a jacket and have some kind of animal skin shawl over the shoulders. Will help fill some undercut behind the head. Low slung backpack and a few hiking bits of kit. Was also thinking of furthering the pointing pose by having him mouth open shouting.

The second skitterer looks good. The second scavenger looks like he's a lot bigger than the original even tho the fig is a conversion... go figure - must be the way the neck is angled / stretched. Other than that good tho

The Hunter is coming on but I really don't like his weapon at all. It doesn't look practical as a hunting tool, a farming implement or a fighting weapon

hmmm sorry but the hook doesn't work well for me either... its not a sythe as its the wrong angle its too big to be used for hooking say the back legs of a creature out of the way like a shepherds crook, and as a weapon blade it looks wrong too.

sorry klute i thought you meant something much smaller on the end of the pole.

Definitely agree on the hook being too large. I want a cross between a sheperds crook and something like elephant handlers use. A simple staff would do for herding I suppose but something a touch more elaborate Im fancying.
I dont want a weapon that could be used for herding though. Needs to be a tool that could put a bit hurt on if needed.  Google time again  ;D

Update time.
This little fellow is nearing completion now. Head details and maybe a blanket roll on the backpack. Front pockets on the coat too with maybe some gubbins poking out. Gone for a spear as he is now officially a hunter not a beast master, seems more appropriate. The 2 critters are reposed and finished too but not taken a pic yet. Im more than happy with the finish and difference to the originals.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/Klute/wip%20sculpts/humter21dec.jpg)

Nice

Weapon works much better, tho the head looks like flint and the bit where it meets the shaft looks like metal. Unless the head is just roughly beaten metal?

Anyway, looks miles better than the hook did imo

He's coming along nicely!

Yeah was going for beaten metal. You think it might be too confusing, should I reshape the joint and make it flint ??

nooo all the furbarnii seem to have metal weapons - i think it works - just make sure whoever paints the show model realises as that will set the "trend"

I agree. Just needed to know what it was meant to be. Roughly beaten metal works for me and I'll make sure he's painted accordingly :)

Not to worry. After some top secret correspondance from the men upstairs the spear has been changed to a shorter more "traditional" looking version.  ;D

nooooooooooo

well more traditional - ok i get that... but shorter? thats a sensible looking long spear length to me!

While I agree the spear length I already have is fine as is I agree more with it being shorter. This figure was fully intented to be practically unarmed, relying totally on his beasts for doing the hunting etc. He does need some form of weapon though and a short spear fits nicely.
Think of it as a cattle prod ;-)

ok if you insist... :p

OK time for a little update, apologies for the lack of noise from me :-)

Here is a little pic of my next figure for the range. A leader for the slingers. He is now a lot further on from this basic blocked out pose shot I sent Mike before I went ahead with detail.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/Klute/DSCF0287.jpg)

Now the question is I would like some ideas on some detail to add to his top. He is wearing a cuirrass type top which I imagine being a toughened leather type. I would like to add some embossed detail to the chest area to jazz him up some but not sure what it should be.
Ideas please :-)

Certainly an interesting model, Mark - and definitely a heroic pose.

I would like a rather plain leather helmet. Herders are un-armoured - so there leader shouldn't stand out to much. But you could detail the leather a bit, so it looked like a finely hand crafted one - made out of a several pieces of leather.

For amour I'd like just a chest plate - perhaps a bit like this:

(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y81/cl_clam/SCH1030Large.jpg)

I'm loving the pose on this one :)

That leather breastplate looks neat. I could see that working.

The cuirass is already done I just need a motif/emblem to add to the chest  ;D

Oh, my mistake, sorry ;)


Why not make that an open letter to Mike, here  ::)

You'll get to see soon enough   ;D

Yeah yeah after Ive altered 90% of the figure cos Mikes a fussy what not   ;)

Didn't know it was to be kept a secret :( - so all-in-all this was just to show us how to make a Fubarnii armatures then? :)

Oh! - and really didn't know Mike was that hard working for - seems like such a nice guy - lol. Next time you better have him approving the design concept - so you don't have to rework the entire miniature?  ;D

Teasers  :P

Don't worry, Mark's just a hard-done by Artiste... by 90% he means two (realtively) minor alterations. I didn't even ask him to remove the apples! :)
Mark will hopefully share photos before he sends the sculpt over to me in the next day or two  :)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/Klute/sca.jpg)(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/Klute/scb.jpg)


Bah you lot are pushy buggers.  :P

Very nice indeed, I'm glad he's already on my list.

He looks really cool. I like that his sling is under wraps and he's idly got his foot on a rock like the rest of the unit can take care of any probs.

HN

Glad I asked. Made my day. Been awful till now, but this surely helped :)

Excellent miniature, Mark - and certainly a must have.

Thanks.
Having the sling tied to the staff like that means its easier to sculpt and cast. They are really thin and I struggled with the first herders I did although the posing was a bit nicer. Always thinking of ways to get around problems while trying to keep the figures as cool as possible.

Feel free to replace the rock with a Devanu or Delgon corpse  ;D

Well done! That's you best sculpt yet. Great pose.

I like this guy a lot  ;D
(Thanks for doing the tweaks Mark, they make him even better)

I'm hoping to have him to show at Salute, but it'll be a fair while before he's released (as there's going to be a huge backlog after salute!).
@Geckilian: You aren't getting him confused with the hunter are you? Also a very nice model  :)

Oh I have a separate list for utterly unreleased stuff that stuff gets added to - this guy was added after I saw the armature. Other items on the list are Belan with bags, howdah, etc etc.

That's cool then - just checking I wasn't being confusing  ;)

Did I mention I'm going to have a WIP Enarii with me on Saturday?

Hey my blog sod off back to your own. >:(

 :P

Sorry...
I was feeling outshone by your new sculpt so thought I'd play the 'god' card  ;)

And it looks very exciting!!!

Actually, that's the one thing I'm really missing here - corpses, wounded/dead Fubarnii, even skeletons or skeleton parts etc. Like to add these small thinks to my bases. So Mike or Mark, one of you should definitely look into the autonomy here - and make us a small skull, bones sprue maybe a complete skeleton of a Fubarnii.


No you didn't, and if you do, make sure it's posted here on Monday - or else .... ;) And should there be a Dhogu, too - don't hold back :)

Im a big fan of having extras for basing etc. The problem I guess is costing, especially with todays metal prices, and I believe extras such as animal skulls etc etc would have to be cross genre/range to be financially viable.
What you will find is that as the ranges grow then more sprues of extras will appear. Stuff brought together from different figures that Mike deems suitable for a sprue of their own. We already have spears, shields to name a couple. Something like a skull would have to be sculpted specifically for that purpose and not just nicked from an existing figure.
My thoughts anyway.  :)

Good idea on bits. There are a few 'bits' sprues already, but they don't tend to sell terribly well. I'll keep making them 'cos I like them though, and just sell off the spare masters if anybody wants them.
I did do a Delgon armature and loose heads when I did the soldiers and deraks, but I'm not sure if they all got used. I'll have a look at some point.

That is a good point on the dhogu. There's one dhogu that is almost finished. I'll bring him along (and take photos for those slackers who can't be bothered coming to Salute).

I would certainly appreciate a Grishak corpse, should anyone be taking suggestions.

Is that for bases or are you feeling a bit peckish Geckilian?

HN

Oh, I'd be severely tempted to buy enough to represent all the Grishak I own, for each time I kill one. I do loathe Grishak charges.

As I see right now the current sprues are mainly for conversions. And who  (other than GecKilian) would want to chop their wonderful WoTs into pieces. If they where natural mulitpart miniatures with separate hands, heads etc I could see a market, but I would never consider doing a general head swap on my WoTs - or weapon swarp. And then the additional weapon sprue is not 'new' weapons - but 'just' existing weapons - and more or less just for creating a bit of variety like a Delgon Derak Character or...?
I think the new knight lance arms, the Herder upgrade pack and especially the empire shield sprue has much more potential. But I'll soon find out, wont I?  ;D Actually rather like the idea of upgrade packs with completely new weapon arms - could be nice replacing the bodyguards spear arms with a ... a halberd or ... something else, without chopping the miniature apart.

And a basing/accessories sprue is completely different to that. Everybody love skulls :D And, I'm rather sure it will be a success.

And for price .. I'd happily pay £3 for a shield pack and would also easily pay for other accessories. And start small. I'll bet you, that now and then there will be room in a master mould for a small sprue - and if it's popular one it can go into a production mould, and if not ... well .. Mike will probably be needing some freebies next year ;)


And would someone else bring a camera, please? We all knew what happened last year - and if Mike did remember, he'll probably be to busy taking pictures anyway. The 'slackers' want to see the show first thing Sunday   :P

and then back to you Klute ;)

I don't know if you guys are familiar with Crocodile Games but something they do which is quite cool is include small objects with characters models; on their sprues. So you can get a set of Coptic Jars with an Anubi Embalmer for example. Perhaps that's one way around it.

HN

I do like the way crocodile games do their little extras - that is something I orginally wanted to do more of. I'll see what I can do going forward and Mark is good at doing little pieces anyway. :)
One of the new scenarios does involve capturing a priest, so it would be good to do an injured priest as a counter at some point.

Another cool 'marker/objective' would be a nest. Always wanted to see how you've pictured a Devanu's nest. Other cool items would be be eggs - or shell of them. But don't forget doing undead Fubarnii's and other beastly skulls. Really want some to add some flavour to my bases.

Been farrrrrr to long since I updated this thread so here goes.

Now the slinger captain and hunter are out of the way Ive gone back to the original herders I did. Just going to strip the kit from them and rework the shoulder joints to fit the ball/socket style I prefer now. These guys will have 2 sets of arms, bent and straight, and there will be a few odds and ends to add to them. Not sure if these 2 would end up as the civilians Im planning or I will do some new ones for those. I would like to end up with a coherent "pack" for the civvies tbh. eg 3 bodies, 3 heads, 3 pairs of arms, few sprues of kit. Mikes the boss though so its his call.
BTW I will rework the original sling staves to fit these guys too.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/Klute/wip%20sculpts/DSCF0343.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/Klute/wip%20sculpts/DSCF0342.jpg)

Heres some random stuff....
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/Klute/wip%20sculpts/DSCF0350.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/Klute/wip%20sculpts/DSCF0348.jpg)


Oh and a sneaky peek at the Noble   ;)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/Klute/wip%20sculpts/DSCF0347.jpg)(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/Klute/wip%20sculpts/DSCF0346.jpg)

Awesome work Klute. I like the sound of your plan for the civilians and the noble is shaping up well.

Is one of the items a plate with bugs on?

HN

Loving all the extras. Those will have to be sprued up :)
Those herders will really round out the herder subculture nicely. Can't wait to see how the noble turns out!

yes! That noble is looking great I will deff be picking a few of those guys

If I may be so bold, the only thing the herders are missing are bedrolls or pelts, something to keep them warm through those cold nights on the plains. I love what you've done so far.

Thanks for the comments.
Re the herders and bedrolls and pelts. The mounted guys and the hunter have bedrolls. Its definitely worthy of being added to the odds n ends list though.

"Those herders will really round out the herder subculture nicely. "
Hmm I was thinking it would be a cop out using these in place of some new figures for civilians. I think a good plan would be to have these 2 in a herder themed pack.

"Is one of the items a plate with bugs on?"
Lol yeah. I sculpted a tiny beetle and made a press mould for it. Its so easy to roll out a length of putty and stamp dozens of the buggers. Will likely pile the plate up with them. Want to so some fish type food too and fruit looking stuff.

Bedrolls etc would typically be carried on the enuk - a herder would never go too far from his/her mount.

Clever stuff with the garkrid!

these look great!
I really like the elder and his bent walking stick.
great extra bits too. I love to convert, so these look very tempting

Things are looking great!

Wouldn't it be cool, if you could sculpt 2 or 3 different hat options for the noble?  Just an idea.

And make more pots and other extras, if Mike is going to cast them, I would for sure buy some :)

Thats what will most likely happen. I will certainly do both styles that Mike sketched and probably other variants. What ends up being sold I dunno yet but I dont see why a couple of variations wont make it.

Just a quick update to show Im still in the land of the living lol.
Ive finished the second civilian and the third is coming along nicely with the 2 noble guards. Not finding much sculpting time recently but hope to get these 3 well on their way over the next couple of weeks.
Ive also added to the pile of "maybe usefull stuff". Done a bundle of crops and a lyre.

Will try to get some wip pics up.

Excellent, saw the noble in the flesh on Friday and it is great. Interesting to see what you do for the guard, and what Mike comes up with for rules.

Excited! excited! excited!
for a clan based around nobles this is great news :)

The guard will be pretty much as Mike sketched them. I do tend to wander though lol. They will be obviously guards to high status Fubarnii as shown by the clothing and style which will mach the noble all be it not quite as fancy.
Megatron you may be pleased to hear the third civilian will have a richer look than the others. Not a noble but would certainly not look out of place as a part of a noble clan. Maybe an advisor or such.

Quick preview of the third civillian. As mentioned he is fancier than the first 2 but not quite Noble.

(http://i.imgur.com/jwNPS.jpg)

The neck is to be shortened and I musing over what to use as this guys arm options. The arms will hopefully be compatible with the others. Im thinking of sleeved arms with maybe a pipe ?

Oh wow! This guy looks really cool! I would like to see a pipe so that's a vote from me

Very nice going there. Mike you need to get working on the Twilight RPG so these can be PCs/NPCs ;-)

Very characterful. I like the pipe option but think she should have a rolled up copy of the Travelogue under her arm. ;)

HN

Actually a large quill and bundle of parchment was one of the options I was considering.

I second a twilight RPG! It would be awesome.

A twilight rpg? Could be fun. Trying to get into the mindset of a group of Fubarnii could be an interesting challenge  ;)
If anybody ever wants to try that out I'd be more than happy to support!

Liking the look of Mark's posh civilian. I could see him wandering around Gar Loren clutching a big pile of parchment, oiling the bureaucratic machine. Or arm him with a spear (and plumed helmet) as a provincial house guard or as a bodyguard for a rich trader.
A pipe and maybe a staff would also be a fun option for a more relaxed day.

Bit of a late post on the recent teaser. Love the renaissance style of the pants. Looks a great miniature to paint.

Quick query, his head seems blunter than your average Fubarnii, is this prior to building up the snout more?

Any updates overall? ;)

Yeah the head is something Ive been musing on myself. While its chunkier than the others Im feeling that with my and Mikes differing styles that mixing it up myself a bit wont go amiss, after all we arnt all the same shape either. Still need to keep it within limits of course. He does have a hat now though which helps.
Im on with the arms which have a pen/quill type thing and a kind of board/slate. Maybe its a primitive Fubarnii Ipad and stylus ???

Quite ashamed at how long its been since I posted here.
Anyway here are some pics to mull over. 2 civillians and an assortments of bits n bobs.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/Klute/greens/civsfeb.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/Klute/greens/bits.jpg)

The civillians are finished bar anything Mike wants changing. Will be getting stuck into the noble guards next.

Nice work as always Klute. I like the range of extra items you've done, especially the wheat/corn/barley and the camp fire.

HN

Great stuff, and somewhat amusing that I just did something similar.

I just finished my trader and added a hat that has the same styling to your painter. Thankfully it is a larger PreePree style crest, as befitting his wealth. ;)

Shall post up photos when the sun permits.

I honestly think the largest portion of my next purchase will consist of the civilians and accessory packs.

- Taelan.

I didnt use anything specific for the crop bundle as I was unsure what they would be like. These are kind of long stalks with a single "pod" at the end, a bit generic but fitting I reckon.
I must have redone that camp fire 20 times. Just couldnt get the flames right, very hard to sculpt. So in the end I left them out lol. That way the fire can be dead or (with a little painting magic) very much alive :-)

Taelen, the frill on the hat was originally just like you mention but was too overpowering really. I didnt want this one to look too fancy. He is kind of a well to do sort but no where near nobility. Ive sculpted him as a painter, sign writer or similar. Arms and heads from others Ive done will swap around though so there should be plenty scope to mix it up.
The 2 arms among the bits n bobs Ive intentionally done open to make them easy to use for conversions. Carrying the crop bundle or a plate, or playing the lyre.

EDIT
Apologies for the soft photos. Details are a lot sharper than they look. Dunno what happened there, need to look at the settings I reckon.

Good stuff!

Camp fires for cooking on shouldn't have flame anyway just lots of White ash and glowing depths.

Gotta say I love the painter artist pose  ;D  I can just see a wonderful vignette with him as an excentric artist intent on capturing the wilderness in all its glory, escorted by annoyed/worried guards just wanting to get him back to safety. No one wants to be responsible for a nutty artist in the middle of nowhere. Cue big scary hunting party!

Great work as usual  ;D
Looking forward to getting them cast up!

Quick update of the noble guards.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/Klute/greens/nableguard.jpg)

I think these polearms are a touch too big. The length is fine but the pointy end  needs to be finer/fancier imho.
Opinions?

I think your right. The blade probably needs to be a touch thinner but the bit neck that connects to the shaft is definitely too chunky. Apart from that they are looking good.

HN

I actually really like the size/ thickness. They are supposed to look impressive and scary and would probably fit into the fubarnii aesthetic if they didn't work to well :P I day just fancy them up a bit! Add some runes or some gems, beads on the top! Y'know to look ceremonial.

I like them as is too. Not overly practical, ceremonial weapons which can be used in a pinch ;)

Noble guards pretty much done and dusted.
Few little details to add,couple of chain fasteners bit trim on the capes and maybe a small sheaved dagger. Oh and eyelids. I also fancy the upright one as a standard bearer.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/Klute/greens/guardmontage.jpg)

I am in love with these. I will take 10

:D Loving the crests, very PreePree :D

HN

Nice and fancy looking  :)

Those are lovely - they're certainly a lot chunkier than the original Fubarnii Militia. A different region perhaps?

They look great. I particularly like the idea of having the one as a standard bearer, both from a painting point of view and from the prospect of capture the flag scenarios will be another easy addition to the scenario pack

Can we have an option with the MASSIVE weapons please? :)

p.s. very nice

Are they made from PreePree? The Nobles would have to find something to do with all those leftovers from failed fad diets. ;)

Forgot to say I do really like them. Just the right degree of lavishness for a noble. The 'thing' on its foot - is that a shoe or just decoration?

I'd love to see one of these ladies with a PreePree held protectively in one hand with a knife held defensively in the other, like if you try to touch my bosses pet your dead!

HN

I simply cannot believe how long its been since I updated things here.

Anyway.......things I'm working on at the moment regarding Twilight.
Frenu and friends. The little ones are done and the proto belan is also. I'm currently sculpting a Frenu koapi(adult) but may start over as its a bit too big.
I've also go it 2 proto fubarnii on the go which are looking fun and will round out a nice group for the frenu.

All good man, work and life caused me more than enough difficulty supporting Twilight and getting my figures all painted up! Look forward to your updates! :)

- T.

Yeah there's been a lot of reality going on to say the least. I have been beavering away in the background though, not as much as I would like but some at least.

I look forward to seeing (and painting!) more of your creations Klute. The previews of the Protobelan and the Frenu I've already received are certainly keeping up expectations for the rest you have WIP :)