The World Of Twilight

I've had quite a few people suggest new buildings to be made  and thought it made sense to group them together in one place.

I'll maintain a list in this thread's original post. If you have ideas of what you would like to see then please post below. If its something that takes my interest then i'll promote it onto the list in this thread (and ultimately onto the "Portfolio and WIP thread" (http://www.worldoftwilight.com/forum/index.php?topic=17.0))

The criteria for getting on this list are entirely arbitrary and changeable - depends what I like...  

If I make a kit you suggested you get a free one! This may take a while though, be patient!

Including what is on the Wip list we have so far... in no particular order.

- Tower
- Barracks
- Stables
- Clacks Tower
- Watch Tower
- Partially Collapsed tower
- Marketplace
- Enuk coaching inn
- Fortified wall sections for defending against Devanu
- Jail
- Lighthouse
- Windmill

Added (suggested by)
- Engineers house (Darth Tater)
- Waterwheel powered workshop (Rick)
- Warehouse (Jubal)
- Ordinary houses (Scalafino)
- Temple/observatories (Darth Tater + emberbreeze)
- Brick S***house ... or more politely outhouse (Ben Brownlie)
- buildings on stilts (koya)


When it come to starting a new design I MAY (at my discretion) put up a poll to see what people would like me to work on next.

I imagine an engineers lab could make quite a cool "eccentric" building.

An observatory would look pretty awesome too   ;D

ah yes the engineers house... well said... (added).
Obeservatory - with the temple i think.

A specific trader's tower would perhaps be good; you could have baruk stables at the bottom with wide doors, and pulley or platforms to carry goods up the side to warehouse rooms further up. Another bigger idea would be a clan or city council tower, not sure what that'd be like particularly though.

How about simple houses/dwellings for the common Fubarnii or even a Farm house.

There is one thing missing (which I was considering building when I had the chance, lol!). What about a manufactory with an attached water-wheel for power? I was thinking along the lines of about 3 interlocked low buildings, waterwheel on one side, wide doors on the other. Probably some sort of workshop/manufactory, possibly even a metalworks or a smithy.

Warehouse, homes and waterwheel powered smithy - all good and added. Thanks Guys.

Like most developer i think we get carried away with doing the fun and unique, and forget about the mundane places for people to live... I shoudl churn out a couple of simple different sized homes i guess.

I'll share some pics of the little house I made with the pryngul tower at some point - it could do with a nice little doorway (a bit lower than the standard doorway), but does work very nicely. The only possible issue might be that a kit for a little house probably wouldn't work out much cheaper than a tower as you still need all the roofing. Would it be possible to do an alternative non-tiled roof? Maybe with a sunken floor and a raised lip or safety rail. You could add a little entry hatch for detail and maybe even a little shed or something to sit on the roof itself, or a ladder that could run up the outside wall?

Beth was enthusing about waterwheels a while back... Those could work very well from lasercutting!

The pitched, tiled roof is a bit of a double edged sword. Its a great selling point i think, but as mike says is also uses quite a lot of styrene.

I am looking at flat roofs, and have a good source of model hatches (really 18th century ship gun ports from a boat model company). My only concern with flat roofs is whether such a model would provide enough interest to make it worthwhile buying as a kit? time will tell i guess.  Adding a railing is fairly straightforward with the Brandlin patented railing making system (which is both genius and likely to send customers mad trying to put it together!).

I'm thinking of making 2-3 slightly smaller single or jsust double storey dwellings with different roof structures and doorways and beam work etc. I'd probbaly make 2 A4 sheets able to make all three buildings. But with elements you could mix and match so you get several different homes from one kit.and if you want a whole village then maybe 4 kits will get you a dozen buildings - all thematically consistent but all different.

I think you had a view of the tower laid out on it's sprue-sheet (as it were), but I can't remember the complete layout. BUT - if you put the pitched, tiled roof on a seperate sheet, you could sell it seperately for people who would be willing to buy an extra sheet to have a tiled roof, rather than a flat roof. I know it's a mite more fiddly, and a bit more outlay, but it might be a good idea - if you've got a bit of space you could maybe put some extra detailing 'bits' on it as well.

actually Rick thats how it started.

there are two sheets in the kit. a 1mm thick one that contains all the beam work and then pieces for the structural elements, but this turned out to be too thick to bend into a cone to make the roof so i had to put all those bits on a new thinner 0.5mm thick sheet. Then I found I had lots of space spare on an A4 sheet so put all the windows and other decorative pieces on there.

Selling a separate roof is a good idea though if people want one. the only restriction being that it'll only fit a pringles tube. but if there is demand then i'll make one. or is that "build it and they will buy!" ;)

Regarding the roof, I think there would be other variants than just tiled/conical and flat. I don't have Sketchup and I'm not about to try installing it (in Linux) right now, but I'm sure you can imagine intersecting the Pringles tube with any number of easy-to make, single-curve or flat shapes, to make interesting alternatives.

One thing I haven't quite worked about these yet - can one use the roof-cone without tiles? I live next to a nature reserve, and at some point collectiong some stuffs and doing a thatched tower would be quite fun.

Yes you can

the roof is a cone of styrene bent and glued together - its the hardest part of the kit and can be quite tricky. I provide a template in the instructions if you want to make it out of cardbaord instead (which is easier)

The strips of slates/shingles are then glued to that - meaning you end up with a very robust 2-3 layer thick cone of styrene - very strong and robust.  The shingles glued on do reinforce the whole structure.

Certainly if you get a good glue bond on the cone then you can cover it in anything you like.

If you do buy one and do that then i'd love to see what you come up with!

Pub/tavern and / or communal... erm... outhouses

Coaching inn we already have, but a small pack of outhouses might be useful.

How about a little river bridge? Tew Far is great as part of something larger and more modular, but it occurs to me that you could easily do a little bridge that could sit over a river. It would need to be lower with a ramp at each end, but I could see lots of uses for that.

If you wanted to be really clever you could build a little house into the edge of one end of the bridge for a toll-keeper.

That sounds cool!

hmmm - i agree... so, what would make this bridge say "i was built by the fubarnii?"

The fact that there was NO WAY a fubarnii could accidentally fall off it.  They're not fond of the idea of drowning.

so a walled and covered bridge then?

I know that new ideas won't be terribly useful at the moment, but it occurred to me that some street furniture might be very neat - a few covered stalls and whatnot. It doesn't really fit in with the 'built on rubbish' theme, but might work anyway.

not such a bad idea, but wouldn't resin cast pieces be better for this? Pardulon and old crow (old ainsty range) d a lot of this stuff.

Unless of course you think that a fubarnii trade stand looks different to a generic fantasy/medieval one?

Fair point on the resin - I was just imagining you could create nice simple frames that would pretty much clip together ready for loading with stock. I hadn't thought beyond the very basic idea though...

Making a few little stands would be a good cheap way to build a market, too; I imagine you could get maybe 4 stalls or equivalent to a lasercut sheet, possibly 5, and if that's say £8 or £9, I can't imagine a resin model would be less than £2.50 - in fact it would prolly be over double or even triple that. In short, I'd consider abuying a sheet with a stall or two, but I don't usually find much attraction in resin scenery due to the cost.

Having started selling at Salute yesterday I was pleased with the general response that the laser cut kit approach is "brilliant" and "genius".

So it begs the question, what next?

What new model, new direction, new structure do I need next?

I'm already committed to a gate conversion kit and some simple homestead type buildings ... Any other suggestions?

Some tiered Delgon buildings would be lovely, perhaps based on quality street tin size or so, for larger flat structures. It's allow for more 3D games when there are stairs and ladders between lots of levels.

I did look into doing big delgonesque buildings a while ago but the geometry is a nightmare. In order to get a balcony that allows two figures to traverse side by side and have say three "wedding cake" layers you end up with a base structure almost 800mm diameter!

Maybe one day but most likely a a scratch build.

I wasn't thinking wedding cake layers, but rather circles of a similar size stacked off kilter with supporting scaffolding - seems like something the Delgon would do to take advantage of the shape of the surrounding rocky terrain etc.

Possible, but to get enough space to actually place 30mm bases in the crescent of an offset building root, you need both a sizeable diameter building and a significant offset. I struggled to get any of the basic geometry to work neatly or me without ending up with 4foot wide citadel building...

I'd love to do some delgon inspired pieces, but I need to find a way to make them work for gettin figures on, and aesthetically pleasing.

I'd focus on basic settlements to start with as these are most likely to be useful in games. How about the homesteads, perhaps some kind of settlement walls, paddock and an engineers home.

HN

Homesteads will be coming, after I do the gate conversion.

Oh and I have a neat idea for a hexagonal intersecting section to complement the tower...

Nothing really major, but something that might be quite cool is a well???
Could be used as an objective marker or something? Like the devanu have to poison the watering hole or something?!?  Or could just add to the scenery ???

Han.

a well would be cool, how a bout a little accesorry pack with lots of little bits in it like a blacksmiths forge?

How about a little pree pree kennel as an add-on to a bigger kit?

A kennel could be cool but would need to be very swish as aren't they kinda like the handbag dogs?

HN

Skerrat kennels perhaps... Prepres would live in silk lined nests in their master's bedroom (or similar).