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Artwork => Scenery Building => Topic started by: Brandlin on May 06, 2010, 09:20:38 pm



Title: TWF-01 - PRYN-GUL TOWER *** AVAILABLE NOW ***
Post by: Brandlin on May 06, 2010, 09:20:38 pm
Mike said it might be nice to have some pictures in here to make the place a little more like home and to get the ball rolling... I don't have anything new at the moment but here's a picture of my finished Pryn-Gul Tower.

(http://lh5.ggpht.com/_RRKBhA-2I4w/S-MkI1ECrsI/AAAAAAAACck/fpxnCrB1Tpo/towertransparency.gif)

There's more news and pictures and such like on my blog (link in Signature) but I promise to post any Twilight related projects here too...

B

EDIT: ooooh i like the funky "floating" look :)


Title: Re: Pryn-Gul Tower
Post by: Lord of Wormwood on May 06, 2010, 10:32:04 pm
Brandlin,

With the weathering and final points of interest this really takes the terrain and turns it into a "home". It will be great to see the range of these grow and expand the hidden world of Twilight.

Got your PM on FOD - thanks for that. Still interested so keep us posted.


Lord Abaddon of Wormwood


Title: Re: Pryn-Gul Tower
Post by: TheGremlin on May 07, 2010, 03:18:20 am
Really inspiring stuff.

I did turn down a pringle at Salute, tho. Not a fan  ;)



Edit: How did you texture it? I've used polyfiller for a few things, but I find it a bit plasticy. The tower of Pryn-Gul looks nice and grainy.


Title: Re: Pryn-Gul Tower
Post by: Brandlin on May 07, 2010, 04:17:48 pm
Really inspiring stuff.

I did turn down a pringle at Salute, tho. Not a fan  ;)

Edit: How did you texture it? I've used polyfiller for a few things, but I find it a bit plasticy. The tower of Pryn-Gul looks nice and grainy.

Thank you TheGremlin - next time introduce yourself then we can have a chat! So many faces and all of them blur together.

I tried filler but its too viscous. I had some success with good old PVA and fine sand mixed together but it 'slumps' on the model meaning you have to do it section by section and lie it flat while it driesand on a curved model you always get some 'slumpin'. The finish is good though.

The final model was done using Liquitex Natural Sand Gel (http://www.artsupplies.co.uk/item-liquitex-natural-sand-gel.htm) which is an acrylic medium with plastic particles added - it adheres really well and I just applied it with my fingers and then thoroughly wiped clean the beam work... great messy fun and a tough result too!

I'm glad you like it.


Title: Re: Pryn-Gul Tower
Post by: Klute on May 07, 2010, 05:29:49 pm
How about painting on the pva first then adding the sand. Should get around the problems trying to paint on heavy sandy gloop. I read you painted the woodgrain by hand which was a little time consuming. Wonder if you could make a tiny paint roller with a wood texture on ?  ;)


Title: Re: Pryn-Gul Tower
Post by: Brandlin on May 07, 2010, 06:28:00 pm
How about painting on the pva first then adding the sand. Should get around the problems trying to paint on heavy sandy gloop. I read you painted the woodgrain by hand which was a little time consuming. Wonder if you could make a tiny paint roller with a wood texture on ?  ;)

Painting on the PVA and then applying sand works well if what you want is just a rough texture. I wanted somehting with a little more depth for this - showing the rough application of fubarnii have. I'm sure there are lots of ways of etting different approaches - the gel sand medium is just the one i chose.

You mentioned the paint roller approach I think on an other forum - i admit to be skeptical, but have also not tried it to disprove it. What would you make the rollwer from klute? convince me its a goer and I'll do it on the next model!

Painting the wood grain was slow but kinda therapeutic!


Title: Re: Pryn-Gul Tower
Post by: Klute on May 07, 2010, 07:35:08 pm
Hmm Ive made little rollers before for texture sculpting and dont see why they wouldnt work.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/Klute/greens/textroller.jpg)
Most of these I did the texture by hand but a couple were rolled when the putty was soft. I reckon if you did that with a wood texture it should work.....or at least be fun trying lol.


Title: Re: Pryn-Gul Tower
Post by: Brandlin on May 19, 2010, 11:14:31 am
klute... sorry mate i missed your detailed reply!

they look interesting - you've clearly thought this through! I admit my initial thoughts were that all the beams would look the same if painted this way, and it seemed very easy for such a roller to skid n slip. BUt you've clearly been able to make this work for you so i may give it a go when i get enough time - i am concentrating on getting kits to sell right now!



Title: Re: Pryn-Gul Tower
Post by: Ben Brownlie on May 19, 2010, 01:58:40 pm
The more I look at this tower the more I like it

I have the urge to eat pringles


Title: Re: Pryn-Gul Tower
Post by: Brandlin on May 19, 2010, 02:03:52 pm
The more I look at this tower the more I like it

I have the urge to eat pringles

I need to make one of those CDs you listen to at night ... but with just pringles chewing on it.



Title: Re: Pryn-Gul Tower
Post by: Klute on May 19, 2010, 02:37:36 pm
The rollers are for textureing putty but its worth giving one a try with paint. You would need a reverse imprint though. Some of that plasticard wood flooring stuff should do to press the texture onto the roller.......hmm I think I might just do one for putty.

Being honest I thought you went too far with painting the wood texture on the tower. It does look good but must have been a lot of effort. If your doing quite a few of these you will be insane(r) by the end of it. I would have done a grey/brown wood scheme with quick highlights then washed with a green for some mouldy colour. Quick and easy and also removes confusion about the wood being textured or not as mention on Frothers I think it was.


Title: Re: Pryn-Gul Tower
Post by: Brandlin on May 19, 2010, 03:30:15 pm
yeah frothers have made a big thing about that - everywhere else its not been an issue - i think the original poster that pointed it out didn't read the text with the pictures - and a number of others followed on.  Conversation just took a route that none of the other forums have.

Personally i don't think its a major problem - will have to see how sales go. not one person who handled the model at salute mentioned it.

Maybe i should be chuffed that the painted on version looks good enough to fool people?

I made a lot about painting on the wood grain but it wasn't so hard. No one seems to complain about painting freehand on miniatures to promote them so i'm a little lost as to why its an issue for a building?




Title: Re: Pryn-Gul Tower
Post by: Klute on May 19, 2010, 04:24:12 pm
You have plenty close up pics of the model unpainted to prevent any confusion. I dont think its a big deal tbh.


Title: Re: Pryn-Gul Tower - AVAILABLE NOW!
Post by: Brandlin on May 28, 2010, 12:40:41 pm
First sets of Pryn-Gul Tower kits are i my hands and on Ebay for sale NOW (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330437899486)!!!

I have kept back a number of kits for sale here.

Special World of Twilight Pricing ...

Pryn-Gul Tower £12 + £1.50 p&p in the UK
Shingles £11 + £1.50 p&p in the UK

Paypal payment to alan.phillipson@btinternet.com

Unless I have already spoken to you by email then this is restricted to 1 kit per person. I'm interested in getting this into the hands of many people to start. I will then reorder further kits and this offer will remain in effect for ACTIVE forum members, at which point you can buy as many as you like.

If you're not in the UK then pm me and i'll sort out p&p for you.

Kits sold on first come first served basis. If I get more orders than I have kits available (12) then I shall consider these as pre-orders for the next batch.

:)

Any questions or comments?



Title: Re: Pryn-Gul Tower - AVAILABLE NOW NOW NOW....
Post by: TheGremlin on May 28, 2010, 06:21:14 pm
I don't have paypal. How can I give you my money?


Title: Re: Pryn-Gul Tower - AVAILABLE NOW NOW NOW....
Post by: Jubal on May 28, 2010, 07:17:45 pm
Pringles duly bought today.  ;D


Title: Re: Pryn-Gul Tower - AVAILABLE NOW NOW NOW....
Post by: Brandlin on May 28, 2010, 10:08:11 pm
I don't have paypal. How can I give you my money?

PM sent.


Title: Re: Pryn-Gul Tower - AVAILABLE NOW NOW NOW....
Post by: Brandlin on May 28, 2010, 10:08:34 pm
Pringles duly bought today.  ;D

Oh the hardship!


Title: Re: Pryn-Gul Tower - AVAILABLE NOW NOW NOW....
Post by: Rick on May 28, 2010, 11:11:18 pm
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How can I give you my money?

Now there's a comment you don't see every day, lol!  ;D


Title: Re: Pryn-Gul Tower - AVAILABLE NOW NOW NOW....
Post by: Brandlin on May 28, 2010, 11:23:36 pm
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How can I give you my money?

Now there's a comment you don't see every day, lol!  ;D

You're in the wrong business then. ;)


Title: Re: Pryn-Gul Tower - AVAILABLE NOW NOW NOW....
Post by: Rick on May 29, 2010, 07:46:18 am
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How can I give you my money?

Now there's a comment you don't see every day, lol!  ;D

You're in the wrong business then. ;)

Most definately, lol! Perhaps it's about time I finished those tents I was working on!


Title: Re: Pryn-Gul Tower - AVAILABLE NOW NOW NOW....
Post by: Jubal on June 03, 2010, 10:03:43 am
I HAS KIT!!!   ;D


Title: Re: Pryn-Gul Tower - AVAILABLE NOW NOW NOW....
Post by: Brandlin on June 03, 2010, 11:05:34 am
I HAS KIT!!!   ;D

Wow that royal mail is good.... only went in the post yesterday lunchtime!

first impressions?

(crosses fingers)


Title: Re: Pryn-Gul Tower - AVAILABLE NOW NOW NOW....
Post by: Jubal on June 03, 2010, 11:45:21 am
Looks good and arrived intact, which is a positive. Just need to get those pringles eaten now... oh, and does anyone know where cheap 40mm pipe can be obtained?

But yea, looks great!


Title: Re: Pryn-Gul Tower - AVAILABLE NOW NOW NOW....
Post by: Emberbreeze on June 04, 2010, 01:30:30 pm
Mine just arrived.  :)


Title: Re: Pryn-Gul Tower - AVAILABLE NOW NOW NOW....
Post by: Brandlin on June 04, 2010, 11:23:52 pm
You know with all my little babies in the hands of strange people across the world I am so nervous that i've screwed something up in the kit design...

not helped by stupid post men that bend the kis to put them through people's letterboxes!


Title: Re: Pryn-Gul Tower - AVAILABLE NOW NOW NOW....
Post by: Jubal on June 05, 2010, 03:49:21 pm
Yea... mine survived going through the letterbox, thank goodness.

Stage 1; eating pringles now complete.  ;D


Title: Re: Pryn-Gul Tower - AVAILABLE NOW NOW NOW....
Post by: Brandlin on June 06, 2010, 07:36:38 am
Stage 1; eating pringles now complete.  ;D

Damn - I forgot to add stage 1 to the assembly instructions. Whilst it IS possible to assemble the tower with the pringles still inside, that's NOT the preferred approach!


Title: Re: Pryn-Gul Tower - AVAILABLE NOW NOW NOW....
Post by: Emberbreeze on June 08, 2010, 11:34:35 am
Any plans to use 40mm waste pipe in any of the other upcoming models? I say this because I'm going to have to go and buy 2m of the stuff, and while it is cheap and having some for plumbing emergencies is no bad thing it would be good to make use of it in more building goodness.


Title: Re: Pryn-Gul Tower - AVAILABLE NOW NOW NOW....
Post by: Brandlin on June 08, 2010, 12:19:19 pm
If i need to use a smaller tube size around 40mm then i shall always use the same size... for exactly that reason.



Title: Re: Pryn-Gul Tower - AVAILABLE NOW NOW NOW....
Post by: Emberbreeze on June 09, 2010, 01:06:21 pm
One thing I haven't seen (may has missed it) in the instructions is the 3rd door and the requirements for connecting to the bridge. I'm sure I've spaced things out such that fitting in a bridge door will be tricky.

Can the bridge reach over objects on the ground floor?


Title: Re: Pryn-Gul Tower - AVAILABLE NOW NOW NOW....
Post by: Brandlin on June 09, 2010, 01:15:18 pm
i supplied a third doorway arch simply because i had the space and i thought a mix of arched and keystone door tops would be good. Its not specifically for the bridge.

The bridge only requires two spaces - on on the 1st floor and one immediately above it on the 2nd. (assuming english configuration where 1st floor is above ground floor)


Title: Re: Pryn-Gul Tower - AVAILABLE NOW NOW NOW....
Post by: Jubal on June 17, 2010, 08:57:45 am
I'm gonna get the review copy built & review written this weekend, hopefully. 3 exams to go!  :D


Title: Re: Pryn-Gul Tower - AVAILABLE NOW NOW NOW....
Post by: Carcharoth on June 17, 2010, 11:02:43 am
Does that mean you'll be on your summer holidays soon? I'm very jealous!


Title: Re: Pryn-Gul Tower - AVAILABLE NOW NOW NOW....
Post by: Jubal on June 19, 2010, 08:14:25 pm
As of today, in fact!

And work has begunn!  ;D


Title: Re: Pryn-Gul Tower - AVAILABLE NOW NOW NOW....
Post by: Jubal on June 20, 2010, 09:46:42 am
Sorry for doublepost, but what are the requirements for building the tower in such a way that it will work with the bridge?


Title: Re: Pryn-Gul Tower - AVAILABLE NOW NOW NOW....
Post by: Brandlin on June 20, 2010, 07:47:39 pm
Jubal - the bridge will locate with the deck aligned to either the third or fourth floors of the tower. You need the space (1/6 of the circumference) on that floor to be clear of any components as you will need to put a door there. The space immediately below the doorway to the bride also needs to be clear. The bridge WILL go over any elements you have on the ground floor (like the main door ot the lean-to) so no worried there.

Before the bridge is released, I will be altering the structure slightly so that a connector piece with a square end is glued to the tower and then the bridge attaches to that using magnets. That way with different 'connector' pieces you can assemble to bridge (or the stockade walls) to any of the buildings.

Does that make sense?