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« Reply #15 on: May 25, 2010, 01:37:12 am »

you are so going to need mass combat rules... and smaller bases Wink

and i am so going to say i told you so :p Wink
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« Reply #16 on: May 25, 2010, 02:12:20 pm »

N'aww, just get bigger tables. It'll be fine.  Wink

With all the "they're not at war yet" messages, I'm still slightly worried that at some point Mike will pop up with a message telling us that the Delgon have decided not to fight the Fubarnii after all and actually everything's going to be okay. And the Devanu are baking a cake for Roban's birthday.  Tongue
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« Reply #17 on: May 25, 2010, 02:26:43 pm »

Yup, I'm considering just specialising in novelty dollhouses instead. The 'Devanu with cake' will be one of the first releases, closely followed by 'Roban with birthday hat'.

Don't worry, it doesn't seem likely that the Delgon will go to all the effort of building a small army and then not bother to use it. The Delgon only build a tool if they see a purpose for it. The Empire build the tool first, then wonder what to do with it, then lose it at the back of the shed. The Casani are probably still using tools designed by their ancestors that have been handed down through the generations and have a strong inherent history to them. They probably also look prettier than tools built by either the Delgon or the central empire...
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« Reply #18 on: May 25, 2010, 04:32:06 pm »

The Delgon are very Roman really, aren't they? Similar reliance on large blocks of heavy infantry, emphasis on practicality and making funny Greek (or in this case, Imperial) inventions useful. There's even one with a tower shield now!  Smiley

I'll be interested to see any Casani when they appear though, definitely.
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« Reply #19 on: May 25, 2010, 07:26:31 pm »

Kinda Roman I guess. I had never thought of them like that, but it makes some sense I suppose! That certainly wasn't deliberate though, although I did have images of roman style formations for armies of Delgon...
It was either Beth or Tom who recently told me that they think of the Delgon as Scottish, which is even more random!
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« Reply #20 on: May 25, 2010, 08:25:48 pm »

Funny, I think of the Central Empire as being more Roman.  You know HedonismBot from Futurama?  I expect the Emperor's court gets a bit like that.
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« Reply #21 on: May 26, 2010, 02:05:44 am »

I tended to think of the empire as being a bit mediaeval european, but the roman idea works. The Romans were great innovators and engineers - they may not have invented everything they used, but they could see a use in an invention. A lot of the things we think of as being typically Roman probably weren't to begin with; I read somewhere that Carthage had aqueducts and plumbing, the jury is still out on whether they got them first and the Romans 'borrowed' them, however!
I do like the idea of Delgon being scottish, though! I can just see the scene from Highlander with the clan moving out from Eilean Donan castle along the causeway, being led by their priest - just got Delgon all in there now!! Lol!  Wink
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« Reply #22 on: May 26, 2010, 08:22:32 am »

The central Empire are too innovative and impractical to be Romans. The defining features of Rome really were their heavy infantry army, their centralised but highly political command system (this the Fubarnii do have) and their ability to take the inventions of others and make them practically useful. Most Roman inventions had been created long before by Greeks or Carthaginians who didn't really have the social and military capability to take full advantage of them. Which reminds me greatly of the Delgon adopting Beru's Derak design, for example.

Of course, ultimately the Empire is the Empire and the Delgon are the Delgon; drawing real-world parallels to little nocturnal guys with beaks and hooves will only ever get so far...  Tongue
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« Reply #23 on: May 31, 2010, 04:52:44 pm »

Yup, I'm considering just specialising in novelty dollhouses instead. The 'Devanu with cake' will be one of the first releases, closely followed by 'Roban with birthday hat'.

WANT!!! At least a sketch, if not a sculpt. Cheesy
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« Reply #24 on: May 31, 2010, 04:55:28 pm »


I think I mentioned before that I think the Empire are the anti-Romans!  They're great at coming up with cool new ideas, but rubbish at large-scale implementation of them. Much more like the Greeks than the Romans, in that respect.
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« Reply #25 on: May 31, 2010, 05:01:05 pm »


I think I mentioned before that I think the Empire are the anti-Romans!  They're great at coming up with cool new ideas, but rubbish at large-scale implementation of them. Much more like the Greeks than the Romans, in that respect.

not to be too political but the societal differences to me sound more like Capitalism vs communism.

Or more like freedom, chaos, choice, lack of control, individuality, dispersed rule vs centralised, state/church controlled, widespread systems and beliefs, conformity.

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« Reply #26 on: May 31, 2010, 05:37:13 pm »


I think I mentioned before that I think the Empire are the anti-Romans!  They're great at coming up with cool new ideas, but rubbish at large-scale implementation of them. Much more like the Greeks than the Romans, in that respect.

not to be too political but the societal differences to me sound more like Capitalism vs communism.

Or more like freedom, chaos, choice, lack of control, individuality, dispersed rule vs centralised, state/church controlled, widespread systems and beliefs, conformity.


Actually the Empire can be quite authoritarian.  They might value thinking outside the box when it comes to new inventions, and accept that their engineers are a little eccentric, but actually there is a lot of social conformity and hierarchy, particularly in the capital.
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« Reply #27 on: May 31, 2010, 07:00:56 pm »

In the capital I'd expect so, but in Larigal, Majorn Anis, the Argoran territories or the Casani regions one suspects that goings-on in the capital rarely have much effect - as indeed was the case with the Roman Empire, which could sometimes go through several Emperors without the provinces being affected much at all.
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« Reply #28 on: May 31, 2010, 07:06:56 pm »

i agree with bethar and jubal - but is that very different from the idea we have of capitalism in the west - we still have central legislatures and enforcement in the west... i saw social conformity as bethar puts it more as social and moral norms and expectations rather than laws and central diktats.
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« Reply #29 on: May 31, 2010, 08:54:28 pm »

I agree. Also from what Mike mentioned about the clan system, it looks as though the individual clans might have a major role in setting up and enforcing laws and legislation within their own territory, and as part of an advisory council at the top levels of the empire, but the cultural conformity is already established within Fubarnii society. I should imagine that the cultural differences between Delgon, central Empire and Casani are there, but very slight; the biggest differences will be of the political and legislative kind.
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