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Author Topic: What exactly is a Derak?  (Read 7135 times)
GregX999
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« on: April 29, 2011, 06:14:46 pm »

What does it shoot? Projectiles? Gas? Acid? Electricity? Day old mushroom soup? (Did I miss an explanation of it somewhere?)
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« Reply #1 on: April 29, 2011, 08:34:28 pm »

Cue schematics.

(from someone else.)
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Megatron0
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« Reply #2 on: April 29, 2011, 10:00:24 pm »

Hmm well they use a blast template so i guess its not a single bullet or anything like that. I imagine it to be like Shrapnel or something akin to a shotgun since you roll with 5CS
Though I may be completely wrong Cheesy
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« Reply #3 on: April 29, 2011, 11:05:24 pm »

I assumed it was like a blunderbuss...
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Jubal
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« Reply #4 on: April 30, 2011, 11:33:57 am »

I'm fairly sure it's essentially a blunderbuss, though the explosive bit probably isn't gunpowder.
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« Reply #5 on: April 30, 2011, 06:50:42 pm »

My understanding is that is a black powder weapon.

Personally I'd load mine with chain... But then I'm mean...
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« Reply #6 on: May 01, 2011, 09:02:06 am »

Essentially a blunderbus. I'm wary of fleshing out the technology too much as I know somebody (probably brandlin) will point out the flaw in the engineering!
Basically think of it as a muzzle loaded, with some sort of explosive, wadding and a bunch of shrapnel. Possibly all packaged together for neat easy loading.
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« Reply #7 on: May 01, 2011, 10:47:13 am »

What did I do now?Huh?

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« Reply #8 on: May 01, 2011, 01:06:38 pm »

Ah-ha, the answer is revealed. I has to smile at the face that no body really knew exactly.  Smiley

So, are we going to eventually see any type of artillery based on the same tech? It could even make good scenario fodder being drawn by one or more beasts of burden of some sort. Or even taken apart and carried on a beast's back.

It's your game world - just make up some not-too-detailed form of engineering to explain it (if it's not actually just black-powder).  Grin
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« Reply #9 on: May 01, 2011, 01:49:24 pm »

As for artillery, the Fubarnii are pretty short-sighted and so rarely tend to build long range weapons - and more to the point, they've never had to fight a "war" per se. Their knights are there to fight the Devanu, who are nasty but don't actually form full-scale armies or deliver sieges or build cities, and the Delgon conflict is only just beginning to generate real frictions on the Empire's north border. So since the Fubarnii haven't had to fight a standing army in a big way (and for that matter nor have the Delgon, though their forces are far better designed for that sort of warfare) ideas such as siege artillery have never really been in the picture...

Yet.  Smiley
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« Reply #10 on: May 01, 2011, 01:59:45 pm »

brings a whole new meaning to "beyond visual range" weaponry
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« Reply #11 on: May 01, 2011, 02:15:42 pm »

I see no reason why a particularly brave engineer wouldnt have the itch to make a "bigger" derak    Wink

Actually I have it on good authority that a certain engineer has started doing just that. Hes not quite sure what it will fire and what beasts of burdon will transport it, but they are minor details.      Lips sealed
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« Reply #12 on: May 01, 2011, 02:36:45 pm »

I see no reason why a particularly brave engineer wouldnt have the itch to make a "bigger" derak    Wink

Exactly!! Just because they've never had need of one (so far), doesn't mean someone won't try to make one.  Grin

I did read about the Fubarnii's not-so-great vision. But just imagine it as a giant blunderbuss. It could use a huge conical template when fired (like 12"-18" long, 4"-8" wide.)

Or perhaps something on the scale of a swivel mounted gun - just slightly larger than a normal derak - and mounted on the howdah of a Belan. Maybe using a template 8" long and 3" wide.

Just ideas...  Smiley
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« Reply #13 on: May 01, 2011, 02:49:38 pm »

Yeah, but the Fubarnii have invented the internal combustion engine and it's rusting in an engineer's loft somewhere. The question with the little guys is rarely "have they done X", more "at what point will the notice the applications of X". I can't imagine it won't happen, though. Particularly since it sounds like Klute knows things we mere mortals don't...  Smiley
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« Reply #14 on: May 01, 2011, 06:04:47 pm »

I see no reason why a particularly brave engineer wouldnt have the itch to make a "bigger" derak    Wink

Actually I have it on good authority that a certain engineer has started doing just that. Hes not quite sure what it will fire and what beasts of burdon will transport it, but they are minor details.      Lips sealed

I will take 12
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